Category: the Rant Board
Hi. bit of a question for you all. When updating msn messenger six point one to six point two, things happened to my internet settings which I think are very unsporting of microsoft. msn messenger six point two installs a tool bar by default, which blocks pop ups and is inaccessible, which fortunately you can uninstall, so I did. then I realised that it had changed my homepage to msn.co.uk. When I tried to change msn.co.uk back to zonebbs.com. internet explorer told me that the page was unavailabble. when I changed my homepage back to msn.co.uk, sttrangely, I could access xonebbs again. it seems that msn messenger, though in its setup panel, it says you can have your own hompeage, will not actually let you do so. it just flings you back to the selection screen until you choose msn homepage. i think this is unsporting of microsoft, do you?
Dobbin if you go to the page you want to set as your home page then go to tools/internet options and check the "use defult" for home page, it will reset it to the one you want, hth
thanks for the tip sugarbaby, but it doens't work like that with this programme, it seems to only allow one homepage, and if oyou have a diffrent one, it will block access to it until you put msn.co.uk as your homepage.
not sure why you'd be having that problem. i too installed msn 6.2 this week and had the same issue with trying to change my homepage from the msn one, so instead of doing it that way i just went to the page I wanted as my home page, the BBC news one, and did the tools/internet options thing from there, don't have any problems there.
dude! read before installing! I did uncheck the checkboxes for the homepage and the toolbar and it installed just the program itself, no more problems.
This is why it is so incredibly important to slow. down. while. installing. programs. and pay attention to the setup screens. I unchecked both those boxes and have never had any problems at all.
I have to agree while I am not saying you didn't read, I too unchecked those boxes and I have had no problems.
Hear hear. Now then mi' old lads and lasses before you go reserving a bed at the hospital for Bill Gates, remember to read the dialogues in the installation wizards before you press on. There are checkboxes to uncheck and that sort of thing, and no homepage problems will be what happens if you follow the instructions.
Hi Dobyn,
Well, I'm running windows 98, so msn messenger 6 wouldn't work for me, because it's only accessible with jaws if you have xp, which I think is terrible. I might just start using aol instant messenger more often now. I don't like the way jaws continually reads old messages over and over, but at least they don't try to force you to upgrade aim. I've had version 4.7, and it's never tried to force me to upgrade. Don't know about the homepage thing, but I think microsofts trying to force people to upgrade to msn 6 is a money racket. They want everyone to switch to xp, and that means mostly buying a new computer, since older computers can't upgrade to it, because of the amount of ram, processor speed, and free disc space necessary to run xp. Well, fortunately I can live without msn messenger in my life.
wonderwoman
Same with AOL Messenger. it works fine with me, but people don't uncheck the weather bug and tool bar rubbish and they get all this rubbish from it. So like be careful ehh.
Yeah, I have all that stuff unchecked, so all that comes up is my buddy list. If jaws would only read the new messages and not keep reading the old ones, it would be fine. I only have ten people on my aim list, so the others I have on there have probably forgotten who I am, since i went for so long without logging in.
wonderwoman
Lol I'm sure they didn't forget WW. Liek I said i'm sure hte new version of AIM would help you, but as you can't upgrade I guess MSN'll have to do for now. Lol...xoxoxx.
but msn messenger won't do, because I can't log in to it anymore, and I don't like the way jaws froze when I logged in to the web version. I know on some pages that are very slow loading, jaws won't talk when I arrow up and down until the page finally comes up, but with web messenger, it wouldn't speak when I pressed insert t to find out where I was, and even with the slowest page, jaws will still talk when I press insert t to read the title bar.
wonderwoman
Hmmm that's really odd. Well then I guess jsut E-Mal and the Zone and E-Pals and Luv2bablyndi and any other sites you're on. Caitlin
But be reasonable ladies and gentlemen! wonderwoman I'm afraid it's perhaps a little unreasonable to ask microsoft to keep supporting your passion for Windows 98, that is after all seven years out of date. In a world where internet security is so so important, Windows 98 just can't compete. You could upgrade to Windows 2000 instead of Windows XP, you know.
Another reason to dump windows altogether.
I'm afraid this solution is not a good one LL. WW would have to pay an extra $200 to run windows 2000 because jaws standard does not work with win 2k. With either windows nt or 2k, you have to run jaws pro. And, if u r going to cough up 200 for jaws pro, u might as well go buy win xp instead.
I stand duly corrected. I should have remembered that this might be a problem, having to upgrade from Jaws standard to Jaws pro myself in 2002. But then again, it's not unreasonable to require users to do that, security is security as they used to say in the war.
XP works real well ... and it shouldn't be that hard to get. I mean it came with my new computer which I got for 500 bucks including accessories, and it works awesomely well, i love this computer! And it wasn't that expensive, liek I said, but it works fine for my purposes. I don't think money's really the problem, I think WW is jsut happy with her computer and doesn't want it any other way, which I can understand, I was liek that when i used DOS.
The miners said the same in 1984, and the unions told Maggie Thatcher that they liked things the way they were, but they had to learn.
Whaaat?
Well, we can't afford a new computer, and there would be the whole mess of getting things installed on the new computer and getting it set up to closely resemble this computer as much as possible. This computer has been pretty good to me, and as long as I or no one else goes playing about with things they don't know anything about, things stay the same with it, and the newer computers aren't as reliable, I hear people who get new computers start having problems for no apparent reason. One day things will be fine, then the next day they're having problems. As for security, I've never had a computer virus. I did receive the prettypark.exe virus in an attachment from a cousin of mine, but I knew something was a bit off, so I deleted it without opening it. I don't open attachments at all, unless I'm expecting it, and the person sending it addresses me by screen name, and explains what it is. If something tries to download on me without asking, I promptly choose no. My isp has set it up so people can't send .exe files to anyone on their server anymore. Isn't winxp the one microsoft is always coming up with service packs for because there are so many security holes? and isn't that the os the virus creators are going after now? I don't see any reason to break in another computer when this one still works. When this one fries, I'll probably catch up on my night time reading, see what's on night time tv, for a few months, or ever how long it takes me to get back in to it, if I do get back in the swing of things after a crash. So far, this old friend is still going along pretty good, yes.
wonderwoman
That's excellent, I don't see any reason to change in that case and MSN messenger is no great loss to be honest.
no, not really, I took about 20 people off my list, because 1, we had nothing much in common, 2, they had a bad habbit of imming me, then getting too distracted because they were multitasking. If a person can talk to me and multitask at the same time without me being able to tell they are multitasking, ii don't mind, but when the person is the one who immed me first, I hate it when they take ten minutes to respond each time, then only give one word responses like, yeah, good, fine. Msn messenger came in handy for talking to a few friends, but if I can't anymore, I just can't, and that's that. I never, or hardly ever messaged people first, because if I was the one who messaged them, and they kept putting me on hold because they're multitasking, then I don't really have a legitimate gripe, but if the other way around, then I do.
wonderwoman
You make good points about the security holes ,WW, i don't open attachments unless I totally trust them, and I don't download thigns unless I am purposely tryign to and trust htem ehehe! MSN Messenger is cool but AIM is better eheheh jk. But seriously ya can do without messenger I guess...I can't but if your'e not obsessed like I am...
Well I'm glad that's all been made crystal clear.....talk about going round and round in ever-decreasing circles! Oh well, at least there were no abuses of the question mark as is the north american's wont.
Lol LL! I'm doing so much better with the question mark thing. You should be forever proud of your accomplishment in making me stop doing that, it shows my respect for you llollollol!
Indeed, it is a practice that is having a deleterious effect on both spoken and written english.
It does indeed... I find it quite funny now when I mistakenly do it.
Hi Caitlin, well I've been on aim a few more times, since I can't use msn messenger, but I only have ten people on my buddy list, and there are only one or 2 people ever online, so I haven't talked to anyone on there since I talked to you last. Jaws repeats old messages over and over, so that can be a bit frustrating. We had a man come out and reset my bios today, and we thought things were going to be ok, but when I opened internet explorer, the home page wouldn't load, and it wouldn't go away when I pressed escape or alt f4, and I had to do a cold reboot, and when I did, jaws rolled back to 1997, and there went another jaws activation when it did. And when I put the cd in, I didn't even have to choose to look for the authorization by connecting to the internet, or any of the other choices, I just put the cd in first thing when I loaded jaws 6, and it detected it, then the date still rolled back to 1997 and blew another activation for me. I hope I still have at least 4 more keys on the cd, and I don't have to connect to the internet and try it again that way. We're going to try and have him come back in the morning and see if he can get it to stay this time. He asked me if I was sure mom put the new battery in, and I thought I remembered her saying her brother in law telling her what to do, but now she says she doesn't remember, but I sure thought she did, and that was a couple of years ago I think.
wonderwoman
Oh dear me whatever's to be done eh? Nothing works! That was the title of a famous article in the seventies about the punishment of offenders, 'nothing works!' so Wonderwoman when you get your computer going again you can read it and understand that your frustration is shared by the most senior civil servants in Her Majesty's Prison Service and Her Majesty's probation service. Bloody young offenders! All these woolly-minded liberals who think we can cure criminals by giving them knitting lessons eh?
Woolly-minded liberals.....knitting lessons......hahahahahahahaha that was inspired!
She's probably used her quick navigation keys to skip over the Lawlordian contributions to this topic though. Oh well, can't win 'em all eh?
The question mark thing? You guys have my curiosity...
Do I have to tell that knitting lessons joke yet again before someone gets it? Witchcraft the question mark thing as it is now rather quaintly known is the annoying tendency that those on your side of the atlantic in particular have for abusing the question mark and turning sentences that are not supposed to be questions at all into questions. An example would be 'I thought it was ridiculous?' instead of 'I thought it was ridiculous.' or even 'I thought it was ridiculous!' the latter two would be acceptable of course. Caitlin used to be incredibly bad at this terrible indictment on the way that young people are taught grammar, but she has now happily reformed.
Oh, LOL, got ya. Hmm, don't think that is something I am guilty of, but then again, I was taught a few years before her. LOL.
Finally finally finally someone got the knitting lessons joke! My faith in humanity is restored. It wasn't meant to be a joke when I first said it, but when I read it back I realised that I had inadvertently created something that might be construed as humorous. Too subtle for some, alas.